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stronger. and aids... ♪ aids is going to lose. aids is going to lose. ♪ good morning, i'm chris jansing. president obama standing his ground. >> we're going to have to say the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> he's been consistent on that but no one's talking right now, not a phone call or an e-mail and i'm not talking about just between the president and the speaker. nothing between their staffers, who are negotiating this deal yesterday. and john boehner is getting squeezed from both sides. now on the right he's taking heat over his propoesal that would raise $800 billion in revenue closing loopholes. on the left the white house won't talk to him until he agrees to raise rates. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell didn't support speaker
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boehner's plan. >> i have no particular observation other than i commend the house republican leadership for trying to move the process along, and getting to a point where hopefully we can have a real discussion. >> i want to bring in "time" magazine's assistant editor and "national journal"'s chris freitz. does this come down to john boehner and what he's willing to do? >> i think what we've been seeing for the last few months, the ideological struggle within the republican party. you've seen some moderate voices stepping up saying let's make a compromise but you have a house that's intransigent. i think bainer is in charge at the end of the day but he's got to wait, marshall the forces and have people coming to him and i hope this doesn't become a game of chicken that goes on into february and march when we have to raise the debt ceiling. >> the question is rates, are rates going to go up?
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let me play what tom coburn said this morning. >> personally i know we have to raise revenue. i don't care which way we do it. i'd rather see the rates go up than do it the other way because it gives us greater chance to reform the tax code and broaden the base in the future. >> chris we've heard him say some version of that before. is he the only republican who seems to be able to come out and say something like this? >> no, we saw tom cole last week suggest that maybe republicans should go along with the president and give a tax cut to 98% of americans, raise the -- >> so two republicans. >> two republicans and others privately say that there may be some room there, the trouble that speaker boehner has as you pointed out earlier in the segment is the tea party and republicans are trapped also on their messaging on this. the white house has been good about messaging that the republicans are the obstructionists in this and they
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are waiting until, waiting essentially republicans out on this. i did a story in "national journal" yesterday where top house republicans brought in some of the best gop communicators in washington and said we have a messaging problem here. we want to get a deal, the white house isn't talking to us. how do we want to put that out in the public, so they know it's the white house who won't talk with us. the white house knows public opinion is on their side, "washington post" "pew center poll said 50% blame republicans. >> the message you talk about chris is working but there's the other possibility that's out there that's emerging kind of a two-part deal, first you would approve tax cuts for the middle class, the 98% and you wait on everything else until january or february, when you have to raise the debt ceiling. some republicans think that could give them more leverage.
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would that be smart rana? >> for the country, not. for the republicans sadly maybe so. you get to a point where the president has less leverage. is the u.s. going to default on its debt, are we going to be back in that position we were in not so long ago? that will be a tough spot. the political fallout and the economic fallout of that, the u.s. never defaulted on its debt, there was a terrible market volatility and business leaders who are ready to invest in this country i think in the right circumstances say this political game of chicken is the biggest empidiment to growth in the country. >> it seemed like nancy pelosi was in favor of some two-part solution. let me play what she said last night. >> we've talked about a two-step, a downpayment on cuts, on investments and on revenue this year and then in the next year take the time to go over
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what we would do with real revenue reform. you can't do it in a matter of weeks right now. >> i mean you hear a lot of that, there's only so much you can do. chris, you don't want to rush into making complicated decisions that should take more time, isn't that what americans are frustrated with congress they always seem to punt. >> what nancy pelosi was talking about wasn't exactly the tax cuts now, fiscal cliff later. both sides have said this has to be a two-step process, there has to be some kind of commitment in downpayment on taxes and entitlement cuts and sets up a framework for broader and comprehensive tax and entitlement reform next year because it is such a big, huge change to how we tax and how we would provide medicare and medicaid and social security, you can't do it all in four books. this new idea that republicans get more leverage if they give
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the president taxes now and hold out on, and hold the line on the debt ceiling like they did last summer successfully is something that is new and i think a different kind of two-part plan that republicans are starting to consider as maybe a backup plan that gives them the ability to say we lost the 2% tax hikes now, but we're going to fight later on the debt ceiling. >> let me bring in congressman james lang foford, fifth rankin republican in the house, congratulations, good morning. >> thank you, good morning. >> let me ask you about the possibility of some sort of two-step solution and do you think if you wait it would give republicans leverage? >> i don't know if it's leverage. two-step solution is where we're headed. you can't do major tax reform and you don't want to do it behind closed doors. it will be a difficult issue, needs to be open door. the same with entitlement
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reform. this is a product of what our negotiations were last year from the debt ceiling. how did we get to the fiscal cliff, it's not only the tax increase from the affordable care act that started january 1st, it happened in the last lame duck punted into this one and the last summer budget negotiation punted into this one. we'll get real cuts equal to what we're doing in debt ceiling increase and if we want to resolve that the best time is right now because we have another debt ceiling increase coming. >> you've told "the new york times" you think your party is boxed in. i want to read from "washington times" "republican leaders struggled tuesday to contain the backlash from conservatives of the gop's offer of $800 billion in tax increases to head off the fiscal cliff, a move that didn't impress the white house even as it spawned a rebellion on the right." so are republicans going to have to give on raising rates? >> no. we're not, because where the president is focused in on is the affordable care act taxes they increase january the 1st on
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people making $200,000 or more. the president wants a rate increase coming in january on people making $200,000 or more and go into next year's negotiations on reforming the tax code and he's looking at a single year time period to have three tax increases on the same group of folks, we're saying that's dramatic on the economy, that will slow down development of our economy in a time we're looking to increase more jobs, why would we do this? how does this stimulate the economy and how does it solve the debt? the president's proposal is $160 billion of new taxes a year on a $1 trillion problem. we've got to get to the spending side. >> let me play for you what the president said about this. >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks for example about $800 billion from revenues but says he's going to do that by lowering rates and when you look at the math it doesn't work. >> he says, congressman, the math doesn't add up.
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>> i'd like to see how he's doing his math on his spending cuts. so far take the spending cuts from last year and count them again this year, also going to end the war in 2014 so we'll have savings, won't wore row as much and take that as $2 trillion in savings. neither of those are real savings or cuts. the statement we won't borrow as much because we're ending the war and saying we never did a tax increase let's count it again is absurd. >> the $800 billion proposal independent experts looked at this and say technically you have to get rid of hugely popular deductions for the rich, the mortgage or charitable deduction. if you get rid of the charitable deductions you put every hospital and university and not-for-profit on the verge of collapse. that something you're willing to do rather than raising rates? >> no, what you're talking about is not the only alternative. there are economists that say that and there are economists
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that say a different direction. let's get the specifics on this because the public battle on this is not working and i wish the president would come to the table and say let's negotiate and get this thing done. we are very willing to sit down and say let's try to negotiate a final resolution at this point as earlier stated there's no resolution on this, we want to see this get resolved. >> congressman james lankford thank you very much. >> thank you. >> let's talk about negotiations, i want to play something congressman tom cole said "on morning joe." >> the president got reelected with a lower percentage and fewer votes than he won with and in a weaker political position. we've got the house. the senate's divided and the president is not stronger than he was. he's actually weaker. >> i'm looking at the polls and the one you mentioned, chris, and i'm trying to do the calculation, does the president have the upper hand here? >> certainly, the president
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understands that whether republicans go forward and pass tax decreases or they go over the cliff and all of the taxes go up and that makes it the case where republicans have to vote for some kind of tax decrease, he wins so it's a win/win for democrats, and they believe they just have to wait republicans out on this. they see the drip, drip, drip of other republican groups, bill kristol, "the weekly standard" other folks coming out saying it's not so bad to give 98% of folks a tax cut and live to fight another day but many republicans are against that. they won't move on this and can boehner bring the confidence around and the democrats are betting that the president needs to pressure boehner so that not that he can lead the conference but that he can force them over to the president's position later in the month. >> there is this sort of bigger message that's coming from the
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democrats which is to the middle class americans, we are on your side. obviously we see that's working as we said in that new pew/"washington post" poll. nancy pelosi talked about the makeup of the new conference and she holds up a picture which is just full of women, full of diversity. let me play for you what nancy pelosi said within the last half hour or so. >> our democratic caucus in general and our ranking members in particular are a portrayed of diversity, bold leadership and a firm commitment to america's middle class, the first caucus where the majority are women, minorities, et cetera. >> obviously ron taking a hit at republicans who have taken so much flack for the fact there have been so few women republicans in leadership positions but really is part of the larger narrative. >> absolutely. this was a huge thing in the election, these demographic shifts that really helped reelect the president. i want to say one more thing on
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the point on taxes. if there's anything the president has a mandate for, raising taxes on the wealthy. the surveys say the majority of americans are in favor of this and i want to point out there is no evidence to show that higher taxes or an impediment to growth. look at the clinton years versus the bush years that came after and see that difference. >> rana, always great to have you here. chris thank you as well. >> thank you. yet another sign that washington can't work together, though, a u.n. treaty that would globally ban discrimination against people with disabilities came up for a vote in the senate yesterday and it failed, even though it was modeled on u.s. law, the americans with disabilities act, and that's in spite of it already being ratified by 126 other countries and in spite of the support of former republican senator bob dole who made this rare appearance on the senate floor in a wheelchair. senator's john mccain and john kerry made an emotional plea for the senate to work together. >> he's here because he wants to
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house speaker john boehner just emerged from a caucus meeting. let's listen in. >> -- the president's been asking for. now we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate
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with ourselves. our targets and framework are things that we can all agree on, and it's exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group, my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago and for that matter in the joint select committee, and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal and outline he's got an obligation to send one to the congress and a plan that can pass both chambers of congress. if you look at the plans that the white house has talked about thus far they couldn't pass either house of the congress. we're ready and eager to talk to the president and work with him to make sure that the american people aren't disadvantaged by what's happening here in washington. >> good morning. you know i think at this point pretty much most folks in the country and certainly in this
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town know where both sides are on taxes. i think we understand that. to the speaker's point, we have not had any discussion in any specifics with this president about the real problem which is spending. we have got to do something about the spending, and an obsession to raise taxes is not going to solve the problem. what will solve the problem is doing something about the entitlements, taking on the wasteful spending in washington. we can't just keep borrowing money and raising taxes and expecting the problem to go away. that is our point to the president and as the speaker said, we want to sit down with the president. we want to talk specifics. he's put -- we put an offer on the table now, he's out of hand rejected that, where are the specifics, where are the discussions. nothing is going on. meanwhile the people of this country are the ones that suffer. so we ask the president, sit down with us, be serious about the specifics of the spend so long we can stop the wasteful spending in washington and
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finally address the problem. >> john boehner reiterating the republican position as the fiscal negotiations don't seem to be continuing, but obviously the clock is ticking. in the meantime, the post-election pressure is escalating on republicans to do something about immigration and it's coming from an unexpected source, former president george w. bush. in only his second major speech since leaving office the 43rd president called on lawmakers to revamp immigration laws. >> america can be a lawful society and a welcoming society at the same time. as our nation debates the proper course of action relating to immigration, i hope we do so with a benevolent spirit and keep in mind the contribution of immigrants. >> this is part of a larger story. some republicans looking to overhaul immigration after getting pummeled in the
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presidential election including a new gop superpack that hopes to give conservative donors a better return on their millions. joining me congressman luis gutierrez, democrat from illinois and member of the congressional hispanic caucus. always good to see you. >> thanks, chris, good morning. >> president obama won 71% of the latino vote we heard romney campaign manager saying he regretted running hard to the right in the primary. the opposing view is the gop's latino problem isn't based on immigration issues. there's a pew exit poll of hispanic voters taken in november found immigration isn't in the top four issues. is too much made a political issue how important it is to the political community? >> number one, if you ask latinos what is the most important thing, my job, the economy, educating my children,
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crime. before the latino audiences, political audiences will listen to you as a candidate. you first cannot be mean, nasty, spirited towards immigrants. if you are they simply shut you off. so i think the problem that the republicans had is latinos said you're being so unfair, you're being so anti-immigrant, we feel personally offended by that and plus it is part of our core value. they just don't listen, so i think it was critical to the republican message that people weren't listening, they weren't buying in because they won't tune in if you're in that mean. >> the "wall street journal" is reporting congressional republicans are laying the groundwork for an immigration bill and raising money for gop lawmakers who support it and saying a bipartisan group in the house has been meeting secretly since 2009 to craft an
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immigration bill and they have legislation ready to go. what do you know about that legislation? >> here's what i know. i'm going to be seeing mr. l labrador this afternoon, republican from idaho sitting down with him. he wants to talk. i think every time there is an ability to have a conversation, a dialogue you need to take advantage. i saw congressman ryan, we're going to see each other next week we're talking. he says luis i want to do it because it's the right thing, don't want to deal with it from a political point of view. that's very encouraging. just think about it. he walks up to me, someone he knows absolutely didn't vote for him, right, he just lost for vice president of the united states, and what does he say? he says i want to work with you to make the country better, work with you on immigration reform. those kinds of conversations i think what i'm relating to is anecdotal but it's flourishing
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throughout the senate and the house, people are having new conversations and this that can lead us to a successful outcome. >> pro-legalization groups are assessing whether to push for a path to citizenship for the 11 million illegal immigrants in this country as well as the overhaul of the overall immigration system, all at once some other people suggested taking the issue in smaller parts more likely to produce results. what do you think? >> i think we have the opportunity and the moment is right to do comprehensive immigration reform. today they're going to deport 1,000 people today, 1,000 people will be deported today. hundreds of american citizen children will be left without a mom or a dad. the system is broken. there will be a woman who is going to be violated in her workplace because she doesn't have protection by an inscrupulous criminal man she has to work for. we can't wait. somebody is going to lose fingers and limbs and die in a workplace because they're not
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being protected. look, the kind of savagery that comes upon the immigrant community because it's broken both in terms of destroying the family and in terms of the impact it has individually, is something we have to take on. we don't have time to work on a piecemeal basis. we need to deal with it immediately and wholistically, and the good thing is, that's how most people are talking about it, so let's take the moment, and look, i think there are going to be citizens, so why not make them citizens from the beginning? what i find incredible, ronald reagan in the '80s insisted almost single-handedly we need to do immigration reform and he said they should be citizens of our nation so they can fulfill all their responsibilities just like you and i do, chris. >> i'm very interested to hear what happens in that meeting this afternoon. let us know how it goes, congressman. great to have you on the program. >> sure, thank you. thank you, egypt's president is back at his palace after a
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comprehensive and sensible gun control legislation, yes i do. that doesn't mean repeal the second amendment. >> the controversy comes over a heated debate on the senate floor over gun rights for veterans. gentlemen, good morning. >> good morning. >> john, let me start with you, senator coburn wanted to amend the bill to stop veterans affairs department from putting the names of mentally incompetent veterans into a background check system to prohibit them from owning firearms. let me play that exchange from the senate floor. >> how in the world can we say the people who fight and defend for us through a social worker deemed incompetent to carry a gun? >> if you're a veteran or not, and you have been judged to be mentally infirm, you should not have a gun, and that no
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amendment, my friend, is absolute. >> so john, do you think there is a problem with the extra safety check? >> well, first of all, you got to look at the full context of what tom coburn was saying. he agrees there should be strong penalties for anybody who uses guns inappropriately. he believes as he has said since then if you can be proven to show you are a harm to yourself or others he understands that. what he was saying it's hypocritical to send soldiers over there, put them in harm's way, give them a weapon and when they come back we're not going to give them a weapon because a social worker said they're mentally fatigued. he felt there should be a stringent policy how we determine whether they have the right to have a gun or not. >> senator coburn argues the law strips them of their second amendment rights it might scare veterans away from getting help if they fear their guns will be taken away. >> the gun issue in itself is a
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difficult issue because you have such divisions in the country between what people think are responsible in gun control and people think they're entitled to their second amendment rights. it's tough to argue when you talk about mental incompetency and do you give someone a gun deemed by experts as having mental issues. when the brady foundation says over 100,000 people who shouldn't have guns could get access to guns if you change this law, that's where people become very concerned and very worried that yes we have to, we understand that we have to respect second amendment rights and obviously we all respect and cherish our veterans. there has to be a balance we're not only doing something that threatens veterans themselves but the community at large. >> the senate fight is part of a larger discussion, seems to be broiling a little bit, john, and this is what prompted bob
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costas' comments, jovan belcher committed a murder/suicide and also reportedly suffered from traumatic brain injury potentially from being obviously hit in the head, concussions are another problem in the nfl all together but how do we keep the guns out of the hands of people who might have these kinds of issues? >> this is always going to be difficult because in this country we believe in your right to own a gun and what we don't want to do is compromise the rights of law-abiding citizens. i think what we have to be very careful and where bob costas was wrong he tried to leverage a very emotional event to promote a certain philosophical point that he has at a time when that wasn't the right discussion. i think these are important issues. they're difficult issues and they should be discussed in washington but not at the time of a tragedy where somebody is trying to leverage the emotions out there. >> tea partiers are using the
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gun issue to rally the base. rand paul said "only hours after re-election barack obama immediately made a move for gun control on november 7th his administration gleefully voted at the u.n. for a renewed effort to pass the small arms treaty. i don't know about you, but watching anti-american globalists plot against our constitution makes me sick." is this an indication, chris, although we don't think this is an issue that decides presidential elections it can raise money and maybe play a role in congressional elections. >> the gun issue in particular in rural parts of the country is a very emotional and very powerful issue. democrats and republicans i think realize that. the argument about somehow global treaties that has to do with the spread of arms that has to do with conflicts overseas is going to threaten second amendment rights of americans in the united states is border line laughable. at the end of the day i have not seen any democrat or any
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republican for that matter i've not seen the president taking away second amendment rights or making gun control an issue in the last four plus years so i'm not sure where this goes. at the end of the day, politics and ginning up your base this is an easy thread to pull and certain republicans in particular like to pull it. good to see both of you. we'll be right back. ♪ but the fire is so delightful ♪ nothing melts away the cold like a hot, delicious bowl of chicken noodle soup from campbell's. ♪ let it snow, let it snow
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sign of a tie-break any wild pitch could be a good one. report from the government accountability office concludes if we get rid of the dollar bill, the feds could save $4.4 billion over 30 years. matthew iglesias, good to see you. >> good to be here. >> if the findings are correct, no more paper dollar, $4 billion in savings but you think this equation is flawed, right? >> it's a little bit of a funny situation because they say you'll save money but not because it's cheaper to make the dollar coins than the dollar bills, it's considerably more expensive. the reason the government saves money if we switch to coins people don't like to use the coins and they think they'll pile up in our sock drawers. >> while that's maybe a possibility at the start but look, here is the pros as a lot of people who think this is a good idea see it. first of all, they last a lot
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longer, i think something like 30 years on average as opposed to dollar bills which last like four to five years, no problems getting a coin for your vending machine and the mining industry, frankly, would benefit big time, so is there at least some merit in eliminating the buck bill? >> right, that's the main issue. the vending machine industry and the mining industry like this idea, for the mining industry it's just good for them, they'll sell the metal, for the vending machine industry it's more convenient for them. on the other hand you have the people who manufacturer the dollar bills and the special paper it's on so you have this fight between competing interest groups but i think it's important to say that the reason the dollar coin saves money is precisely because it's less convenient for people. dollar bills wear out very quickly because people really like to use them so i'm not sure inconveniencing people is a great way to save the government money. >> you wonder if people would get used to it. we're all creatures of habit. great britain did away with its one pound note and now people
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are used to using the one pound coin, canada traded its dollar for the luni and it was popular they have a $2 coin there. why do you think there's so much resistance here? are we creatures of habit? >> people don't like change. you have a similar controversy about the penny where these things that are really worth very little, that genuinely costs the government a lot of money but you have people who make the metal and the coin and on the other hand you have a public that sort of likes things the way they are, that likes to leave well enough alone and you have the dynamic with different aspects of coinage. >> if you wanted to bet a buck, would you bet it's going to happen or not? >> i don't think this change will get made this year. there's too much big issues on the hill to waste time with this. >> matthew, thanks for coming on. >> thank you. if you read only one thing this morning, we've all made our share of mistakes, throw away something you meant to keep, leave something behind in a
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to politics now, where today we're remembering congressman jack brooks. the 89-year-old former texas congressman was known for being one of the first supporters of civil rights. he died in beaumont after a sudden illness. he was widely known for this photograph standing behind president johnson as he's being sworn in aboard air force one in 1963. brooks was also in the dallas motorcade when jfk was shot. president obama's chief speechwriter might be leaving. "the washington post" reports john favro is not clear if he'll write the president's inaugural address first.
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where is jan brewer? she notified her office she'd be gone for a week but didn't say where she'd be going. her staff says it is official business. two big milestones for women, congressman nita lowie will be the ranking democrat, making her the highest in that ki committee's history and elizabeth warren is expected to be named to the senate banking committee. according to the "wall street journal" it could be a signal from the democrats to wall street to watch out. we're barely out of the november 2012 elections and there's talk what big names you could see in the ballot box ahead. richard lui is here with that. >> that's the question in the races cory booker tweeted this about a potential run one supporter saying please run for governor. booker answered said i'm not sure but definitely considering
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it. seriously if actions are any indication his week of living on food stamps is getting good pr, stay tuned now. so is him helping to shovel streets two years ago and saving somebody from a fire in april. the often called super mayor has national notoriety and more twitter followers than mitt romney had months after clinching. recent poll says booker would get pummeled by christie by 50 percentage points. one potential siren who has more fame, ashley judd, the kentuckian is exploring a bid against senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. she wants to follow al franken, the arnold and ronald reagan. she's a mainstay at university of kentucky games and her family goes back eight generations in the state but working against her in red kentucky she's been active in liberal causes like fighting aids, abortion rights and environmental matters. if she runs against the five-term mcconnell expect the hollywood liberal to be uttered
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frequently there. herman cain to unseat saxby chambliss. chambliss is open to leaning away from the grover norquist anti-tax pledge. cain says he won't run but there's plenty of time. >> the poll looked at a number of other people against saxby chambliss and they lost to him. it was only herman cain. >> who stood out. >> oh, that would be interesting. >> it will be good headlines for us no doubt. >> indeed, thank you so much. good to see you and of course there will be lots of good little word plays we could use for ashley judd because her husband is a racer. >> exactly. >> just saying. that wraps up this hour of "jansing and company." there was something there, i didn't hit the mark. thomas roberts is next, save me. >> you connected the dots.
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chris thanks so much. the president all business today in washington, sitting down for a business roundtable, about the fiscal cliff, it's all part of an effort to keep the heat on republicans to cave on tax hikes for the wealthy in order to reach a deal but congressman boehner saying the person the president needs to be talking to is him, and doing so face-to-face, so who is standing in the way of compromise? we have a line-up of guests, debbie wasserman schultz, senator ben carden of maryland and former oklahoma congressman j.c. watts who is also being touted to take up a new job, rnc chairman, plus live coverage of the president's remarks straight ahe ahead. plaque psoriasis. i decided enough is enough. ♪ [ spa lady ] i started enbrel. it's clinically proven to provide clearer skin. [ rv guy ] enbrel may not work for everyone -- and may not clear you completely, but for many, it gets skin clearer fast, within 2 months, and keeps it clearer up to 9 months.
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at chevy's year-end event, we have 11 vehicles that offer an epa-estimated 30 mpg highway or better. yeah? hey. hey. where's your suit? oh, it's casual friday. oh. [ male announcer ] chevy's giving more. now get a 2013 malibu ls for around $199 per month, plus competitive lessees can get $1,000 toward the down payment for an even better deal. good morning, everybody. i'm thomas roberts. topping the agenda the new grinch that's threatening to steal christmas, the seemingly insurmountable impasse over the fiscal cliff. live the president's pr campaign taking him outside the white house but inside the beltway. you're taking a live look at the president glad handing the group
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of business leaders he'll be speaking to live any moment, this say roundtable conference for top business leaders in america and true to form shaking a lot of hands in the pr campaign preparing to take republicans to task for holding talks hostage over tax hikes for the rich. moments ago republicans put the ball back squarely inspect president's court calling for him to put another proposal on the table and get back to bargaining. >> you look at the plans that the white house has talked about thus far, they couldn't pass either house of the congress, eager to talk to the president -- >> let's talk you right to that business roundtable where the president's introduction is taking place and is about to take the mike. >> i know your team has really reached out significantly the last few months to many people in this room and i know personally for my last three

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